“It would be great if in a couple of years Resilience Engineering (RE) is embedded in the 4TU educational programs. We really want to connect research and education. All engineers should understand RE challenges, both from an engineering and a social point of view.” Tina Comes tells about the new 4TU RE - SURF project. This project aims to develop, publish and use Open Educational Resources (OER) on Urban Resilience. Read the ‘People in the Picture’ interview with Tina.